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Feb 28 2012, 06:01 AM Post #31 |
 
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37 lamas was having issues with a certain type of people that look a certain way, It just seemed to me as if it would become lets bash blacks forum. I wanted to cut that off at the ankles before it got out of hand. It was HIS situation that was needing the warranted attention, it seemed like u were egging him on for some reason. He seemed hung up on the kids being black and i didnt want that to be encouraged as his issue. The general behavior of the students is totally different from believing those kids are acting bad BECAUSE they are are black. Otherwise i would have agreed. There are screw ups of all types. I just wanted clarification, had no interest in being offended. Wasnt looking for it either. But if there was some hidden meaning behind what was going on then i was interested in hearing it, instead it became a conflict. Guess i didnt make myself clear. My apologies. This topic has started off with being called a wigger, or anything else offensive to YOU. How do you deal with people calling you names? what kind of names are you being called? that sort of thing. Everyone has someone that doesnt like them, i was a popular kid in school but i wasnt friends with everyone. Its not possible. Conflicts arise how do you deal? does name calling bother you? why? why not? Pretty much it. I used wigger as an extreme case, but as some stated? wigger isnt there biggest issue. So i expanded it. |
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| * Bex | Feb 28 2012, 10:57 AM Post #32 |
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None of those words offend me though, I call myself a nerd all the time. Im quite happy to admit to being nerdy. If someone called me a wigger, I'd probably just laugh at them because that word sounds rediculous more than anything else. Queer is just a term that means happy, so to me it wouldn't offend very much even though I am female but like girls it might be a little more offensive to other people, but i mean there's a TV show called Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, so if that was that bad they'd never have aired it on television. Loner is merely stating the obvious and Fugly is a bringing together of ***** and ugly, so I'd say that given fugly can apply to just about everybody, that would be the most offensive word out of that list of examples. Even though wigger is essentially racially motivated, it really doesn't mean much other than the people that say it to you think that you aren't credible in terms of doing what they do. The only way to prove that you are is to beat them at their own game/stereotype, so I don't feel it's an issue. The stereotype that white people can't dance or can't rap is just funny more than anything. We even laugh at ourselves for it, like the assumption that a rapping white old lady can exist is hilarious to us, but we don't see that as racist. And these stereotypes arent even true, for the most part white people can dance, you see it time and time again on tv, and there are a lot of white rappers now, so the term wigger doesn't really mean anything other than someone calling someone else a wannabe black guy. |
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Feb 28 2012, 03:43 PM Post #33 |
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thats a cold stereotype huh? to be expected not to have any kind of emerging talent? Its made fun of in movies and stuff, but its bexoming more acceptable as the racists from OUR side are being shouted down, as the realization that hip hop isnt JUST FOR US, its for everyone, and shared with by everyone. HIP HOP is love, period. Its meaning has been distorted over time, but i dont blame NWA. i blame the people that misunderstood their message. They werent PRETENDING to be gangsters, they were. Unfortunately trying to relate to committing street crime and living the thug life, makes people glorify it, even though they dont really do it. So now its cool to rap about being gangsta because thats what the public expects, clean living positive message hip hop was phased out with will smith and the ghetto boys. I can relate as i too was caught up in the gang life for some years. trying to convince myself it was the best way for me to live. In the end i ended up becoming a stereotype. Then i grew up. names dont hurt you when you realize you arent perfect. pointing out other peoples "errors" or defining points only leaves those other four fingers pointing at you. My point in creating this thread was to help people realize that you can still be you no matter what others think. Case in point is the poor young irish girl that killed herself a couple years back, some of the students involved with picking on her have been charged. Had a friend just recently die from an overdose on prescription pills, and another try to off himself because of issues with his dad. being called names is just one aspect of how someone can humiliate you or make you feel small. alot of the time it matters WHO is directing such vitriole at you. For most of you, you assumed i meant from just your peers or immediate friends what your reaction would be, nope time to go deeper, parents, relatives, close friends. The people that can hurt you when they speak ill of you. when someone tries to discourage you and call you stupid or useless. Dumb, no good. practical terms for the common insult. Nothing on the list "affects" you? ok then, type in something that does. what insults would you take back for power based on you and how you look or act? Edited by Paikuan extreme, Feb 28 2012, 03:45 PM.
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| * Bex | Feb 28 2012, 04:46 PM Post #34 |
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Idk, I find this topic hard to engage with cuz im not too sure what you want us to discuss. You seem pretty upset or angry more than anything. But I mean I just do what the heck I want all the time, so its just like.. im used to getting called names or whatever and being embarrassed, and its tough, but at the end of the day if people dont like me they can ***** off cuz i know what i like and i know im a good person.. so if someone called me a wigger or something, idk it wouldnt get on my nerves. Sorry if thats not the reaction you'd expect. |
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Feb 28 2012, 04:57 PM Post #35 |
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your reading into this wrong. Angry and upset arent what im feeling, its confusion more like. I cant be any more clear than what ive stated and enhanced to big letters so people can read. Its a fact you cant be friends with everyone, strangers call you names. But there are more important people in your life that can put you down as well dealing with insults is something everyone has to deal with. Why people here are pretending they dont have such issues is beyond me. Bold letters arent just for yelling, they are so people can see what the focus of the subject is, and what to respond to. The question in bold gold is the one you need to answer in this thread. Edited by Paikuan extreme, Feb 28 2012, 04:58 PM.
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| Mc Esse | Feb 28 2012, 08:27 PM Post #36 |
 
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I used to use wigger alot before to make fun of white people who would wear baggy clothes, and accesories that blacks would normally wear. I dont get it. Why cant blacks just act black, and whites act white. The world would be a much more simple place right? |
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Feb 28 2012, 09:03 PM Post #37 |
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explain simple. explain how wearing baggy jeans is acting black.. whats acting white? if you arent being serious ill report you for trolling. |
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Feb 29 2012, 01:11 AM Post #38 |
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Acting "white"? How does one act that way? I don't understand why the world would be a simpler place if we had a certain way people acted. How different is that from sterotyping? |
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| Optimus Banana | Feb 29 2012, 01:19 AM Post #39 |
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I know they weren't acting that way cause the're black I was just saying they fit the stereotype. I personally don't have a problem with anybody unless they start something or they do something to piss me off. There are lots of white people that act f***in stupid. And I really just don't like the wanna be gangsters walking around picking on people. Edited by Optimus Banana, Feb 29 2012, 02:38 AM.
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Feb 29 2012, 03:13 AM Post #40 |
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I'll be brutally honest. In my opinion, these stereotypes (acting "white" and acting "black") actually fit most of the time. I don't mean to offend anyone here, but you asked the question and I'm going to give my input. Most black people I've encountered have acted "black." And by acting "black," I mean speaking like uneducated people, wearing baggy clothing (guys), and some act like gangsters. I believe that this is because they actually want to try to fit the stereotype to gain attention and recognition. I'm referring to the guys and girls at my school, not anywhere else, so I apologize if this is not the case everywhere. The African American kids at my school seem to be seeking attention, thus acting out in these stereotypical manners. This may be because they are in the minority and want to stand out. I'm not sure. Most white people I've encountered speak and act differently. This could be because they don't seek attention - they are the majority at my school and do not need it. This can also be because we as human beings are all from different ethnicities and descents. African American culture is different from "white"/English American culture because the races were brought up differently (i.e. exposed to different circumstances, treatment, etc.) Thus, when a white kid tries to act "black" (wearing baggy clothing, speaking "gangster," etc.) it is immediately considered strange, and vice versa. If a black kid acts "white," it sticks out. Again, I don't mean to offend anyone. I'm just trying to get out my input because that's how it is in my area of the United States, where quite a lot of gang related activities occur, and where there are quite a lot of African American students. |
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Feb 29 2012, 03:43 AM Post #41 |
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must be 37 lamas. OFgirl- its true, i stated earlier what you are stating now, but i guess it has more of an impact coming from another peer. The stereotype is kept alive and well by most people who buy into the whole we are different thing. We have been lving here in america for centuries, any fundamental differences we might have had in the beginning have been bred out. Yup. Being forced to invent a subculture when arent allowed to be a part of the mainstream is how alot of the struggle is vienwed for minorities in this country. There is always gonna be someone who points out that there is a live and relevant stereotype in their midst, its unstoppable really. recognizing its a stereotype can help change that. all im saying. Good point though, alot of kids that act that way are just putting up a front and are in actuality just doing what they are told. By business men and so called music producers. The image they have created is, fake like a thug, get paid a million dollars. But then the thugs get in the game and fake like they need street cred. So they invent it, or perpetrate it by getting into trouble. That stuff is glorified so tough it almost SEEMS like thats the only answer to getting rich without lifting a finger. Then you have all of the american movies that glorify being an outlaw. AL Capone, everyone wants to be a gangsta. Thats who real street thugs aspire to be. Some actually make it, (newt gingrich) it would be alot better if people stopped pretending there HAS to be a line in the sand. Its just as imaginary as the reasons we make up for having one. |
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| jmarshall89 | Feb 29 2012, 03:54 AM Post #42 |
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I think you all think about this too much. Isn't this discussion it's self a racist pretense. Why does someone need these words to determine who I am? If i say wigger am I a bad person or am I good a person for not saying it? What is the point of me saying it or not. If you question a simple word so much you'll miss the entire point of language. People should take more care to understand each other. If someone is really a "racist" they are racist weather they use these words or not. A word will never be so important to defining what a person is. If a single set of words could define a person, life would be much easier. I certiantly would have no interest in Music, Art, and Film. |
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Feb 29 2012, 10:55 PM Post #43 |
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Whats a Wigger? It's a word. |
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